How do Roland triggers work

Drum triggers: which ones can you adjust the sensitivity?

  • I'm looking for new trigger pickups. At the moment I still have old ones from Trigger Perfect. Are also ok However, the contact surface of the sensor is so large that it dampens the snare sound unpleasantly.
    Now I'm looking for new triggers. Since I have an SPD-S, I first thought of its trigger. But for me it would be very important that I can set the sensitivity on the trigger myself so that I don't always have to go to the SPD-S menu.
    ddrum seems interesting too. But I don't want to spend more than 40 euros, and their stripped-down triggers are too cumbersome for me to mount on the clamping screw.
    Does anyone know advice?

  • There is also the module! I've never heard of a trigger (piezo) that can be used to adjust the sensitivity. It also makes no sense to equip the trigger with electronics! Take a look at the self-made Tread drum triggers, there you will find lots of suggestions and ideas, almost all of which cost next to nothing!

  • I already know that there is a module for this. But my Trigger-Perfect-Trigger has a rotary control that can be used to adjust the sensitivity. I find it more pleasant than testing it out via the menu (of course only AFTER a basic setting has been made with it). Also because the skin tension and thus the parameters change from time to time.
    I have older Yamaha stick-on triggers. But I am not convinced either. And do handicrafts yourself? I do not know. I'm not that electronics do-it-yourself freak ...

  • Hello,
    Without active electronics, only damping of the trigger signal is possible. To do this, the two outer connections of a potentiometer (> = 47k lin) are connected to the trigger and the middle (= slider) connection of the potentiometer and one of the two outer connections to the module input.
    With this arrangement you can adjustably dampen the trigger signal, i.e. the trigger becomes less sensitive.
    If you can solder it is not a big deal.
    hth
    greeting
    sheet metal

    665 - The neighbor of the beast.

  • In addition to the Chinese drum triggers, there is also something good from Europe! I've been playing the ddt trigger for a long time. Absolutely great trigger results and top quality. Take a look at the C.V.A.M technology and you don't need a sensitivity regulator for the triggers. This trigger requires much less contact pressure for an absolutely even trigger impulse over the entire skin area.
    The price for the ddt trigger is great too. At drum-tec you can get a set of 5 for from 180 Euros. For information: I also have a 3-year manufacturer warranty on the ddt Trigger.

    My advice!

    gruzzz

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  • Just googled those things. The contact surface seems to me to be just as large as that of the Trigger Perfect parts. Maybe I'm wrong (it's just a photo). Could you measure there?
    How is the part connected to the module? With XLR or jack?

  • Got the triggers in the rehearsal room. I say about 1cm. But that's not a problem. The trigger result is unbeatable. The output from the trigger is of course with XLR. The ddt triggers are offered in the 2006 price list including 4m XLR / blade cables. You can see it on the Axis-online webpage under NEWS.
    I have already tested the Roland at the dealer. You can totally forget. The full blender parts. The sensor has no direct contact with the drum head. Only the foam touches the fur. Only then is the sensor located in the housing of the trigger. Much too imprecise sampling of the drumhead vibrations / movements. I also informed me again what the setting of the trigger sensitivity is about. This function on a trigger sensor would only be an additional one
    attenuation of the signal from the piezo sensor. Every good module makes this possible in the entrance. So doesn't make sense!

    Gruzzzz.

  • Hey drumfreak59,

    just wanted to know if you have the successor models with the Roland Trigger
    RT-10K, RT-10S, RT-10T mean or the previous version
    RT-3T, RT-5S, RT-7K.

    I quote Roland:

    "The first goal of this new series was an improved trigger response - and that is exactly what Roland has achieved with the RT-10K / S / T. The new sensor system is capable of false double triggering thanks to an adjustable sensor structure to prevent (US Patent No. 6,794,569). The lower weight and the smaller dimensions ensure an even more sensitive address. "

    If these are "just Blender parts" as you said, then that's fine
    weak number from ROLAND.

    Thanks & Greetings

    Trommeltotti

  • So, my Trigger Perfect parts also have a contact surface of around 1cm. But they insulate the snare so much that the beautiful metal-like stop that a wooden snare can bring without a damping ring is completely lost. But I don't want to do without that.
    Therefore, the Rolands would have been perfect because of the small contact area. I would also like to know whether you mean the new (black) or old (silver) ones.
    The parts you advertise are huge and red. I know these might be housewife arguments, but I don't feel like having bright red pieces hanging from a black drum set. I would rather get the Thomann triggers.

  • Housewife arguments is good! Yes, if you have no other problems with the trigger than just the color. Are you really serious or is it just for fun? Buy a spray can and paint the triggers as you like. Red / black or lilac blue is secondary. The most important thing is whether the things work.

    But now let's get to the point. Yes, that is actually the case with the Roland Triggers. Even with the new Roland triggers. As I understand the Roland patent, it only relates to the adjustability of the trigger sensor. This part that you have to press on the skin with strong pressure anyway. Otherwise you won't get any pulse strength on the sensor at all. Have you looked at the Roland Trigger (old and new)? It's very easy to spot. The 1.5 cm thick foam cone rests on the drum head and only then does a standard circular piezo sit in the housing of the trigger.
    Yes, that's all.
    With my ddt trigger, the special piezo element sits directly on the drum head. The result is a much faster and more accurate response from all drumhead movements.
    That's just the one difference. The second lies in the special shape of the piezo. The result is this C.V.A.M technology. You can read about this on the ddt website.
    Just for your information: The trigger-perfect triggers only have one standard round piezo element. That can't work.

    Gruzzzz….

  • OK drumfreak59,

    thanks for the information.

    greeting

    Trommeltotti

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