How to run a spring program in Eclipse

10/17/2011, 14:02  
 
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Originally Posted by basti743
If you hope that then someone will tell you what you can do better, okay.

Writing plugins for Bukkit is really easy thanks to the API. Even so, the documentation is English, the class names are English, the Java syntax is English, the help forum for programmers is English => everything is English.
I'll swing
The only problem is:
So at the moment I'm just doing a “learn plug-in” to see how it works.
So, only if I want to make my "real plugin" now ...:
What should my plugin be about?
What should it be able to do?
...The agony of choice
 
10/17/2011, 14:26  
 
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Originally Posted by Super cool
I'll swing
The only problem is:
So at the moment I'm just doing a “learn plug-in” to see how it works.
So, only if I want to make my "real plugin" now ...:
What should my plugin be about?
What should it be able to do?
...The agony of choice
Very slowly Superrene, as I understood you have no programming experience. If I were you, I would first learn Java (at least 1 year) so that you even know what grinding, variables, operators & Co. is. Then I would look at the API extensively, read YouTube videos and forum posts to know how to use Bukkit. If you can do all that you should program smaller plugins, but be careful that you know what you are entering. It is of NO use if you just do C&P. At some point you will run into a problem which you cannot fix (through C&P). Then you can ask here in the forum what your plugin should do, etc.
But to make the big king here without coding knowledge is relatively pointless.

MFG user44
 
10/17/2011, 20:06  
 
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Originally Posted by basti743
That’s an exaggeration ... if you don’t have any programming knowledge, you might need two hours for the basics. The Java technical requirements for plugins are also very low, since foreign classes are mainly used. Classes are even included for the config file and database. Their use is explained to get started in the YouTube tutorial and in the tutorial posted above.

I can count the demanding Bukkit plugins on one hand, any plugin developer would be able to do the rest.
Either you made a mistake or I misunderstood the whole thing. You want to pretend that one without Can learn basic knowledge of a programming language in 2 hours? I hope you didn't mean it seriously. How should a beginner who has not yet learned a clue or the ability to think about programming know how to use loops, variables, operators, etc.? In my opinion, to really be able to speak a language you have to know every detail about the language by heart. For example, how to create a For loop; What to look for in a loop; How to properly use if checks; ... I could go on forever now. So I am firmly convinced that you:
a) You don't really speak any language and you have hardly any coding experience
or
b) You meant the whole thing ironically to motivate the beginners (which is totally pointless, since they now think with every problem that they are not suitable for coding)
or
c) Just just had a blackout.

You definitely cannot learn a programming language in 2 hours without a basic knowledge of another language. If you have already mastered a language beforehand, 2 hours are appropriate.

MFG user44
 
10/17/2011, 21:31  
 
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You can explain what a for loop is to 6th graders in 30 seconds, so what is the problem of working through these things in an online tutorial? It is clear that he cannot program well and must first come across all the problems that every programmer encounters, but as I said, you hardly need to develop any complicated programs to develop plugins, at least none that make any demands on the Java programming language .

I started with VB6 when I was 13 and then came to vb.net very quickly. In the meantime I worked with php for some projects and in Info GK we started with Java, because it is a requirement for the Abitur (besides Delphi I think).

So again:
To develop a plugin you hardly need to know Java => IF AT ALL, you only need to briefly familiarize yourself with Java. And two hours are enough time for that .. to LEARN not to understand everything enough, but to be able to write Bukkit plugins with it.

 
10/18/2011, 12:57  
 
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I don't think we can agree now, but I think we both have different definitions of programming and language. In your opinion, you can speak a language if you only know how to declare variables and the words "For", "Next" and others. However, this way of mastering a language is only superficial. You can only start smaller projects with this knowledge, because you don't yet have the knowledge you need to develop more complex programs. At the first error message, your 30-second student will be fed up and are more likely to give up coding or search for C&P methods in Google.

I can also say I know C ++, Delphi, Java, VB.NET, HTML and PHP. After all, I know how to declare variables, use classes, etc. in these languages. In addition, you can copy enough codes in YouTube and Google to get a program running * scrap *.

Your statement about explaining a for loop to a 6th grader in just 30 seconds is nonsense. In 30 seconds you can explain to him that he should enter "For" and that a loop executes a command block several times - madness -. But that has nothing to do with professional programming. And if he learns this knowledge online, it will most likely be beyond your 2 hour limit.

<- You can teach this to your 6th grader.

If you want to add something or want to criticize / improve / point me out, you are welcome to send me a PM so as not to spam on the thread here.


MfG user44
 
 



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